Really, Dollmore? Blatant Kuroshitsuji rip-off

This makes me love dollmore....more! It's like they're catering to the anime fans. I feel loved. ^o^ I hope they do more outfits like the ones in Kushitsuji.

 

I am not an attorney, nor do I have any statute to refer to, however, it is my understanding that when it comes to copying, art, designs, clothing, whatever, all you have to do is to change one, that's 1 thing about the item and even if the owner has paid to have the item copyrighted, you can still sell the "copied" item. Because of that, in my understanding, many designers do not pay the fees to have an item copyrighted.
I could be totally off base, but that is my understanding.

 

If Dollmore is wrong then cosplayers are wrong too (those who sell their outfits, that is.). I'm sure this may be illegal but I'm not bothered by it. I own a pair of rocking horse shoes and while they were expensive, they surely aren't Vivienne Westwood, the original designer. So I can't talk. I'm sure there's someone in the world with a doll based on Ciel that's very happy right now, haha.

 

For a big company to do that, I'm sure they have got the permission...............
Even so, I'm sure that a lot of people would still buy this. I would ;P

 

it is not the first time.
the part that makes me angry is it said it was come from My Fair Lady. it's a SHAPE. i never buy things from dollmore.

 

i bought that outfit cause it looked cool knowing nothing about battle royale, but after reading the manga and watching the movies... i knew it looked awefully similar....which is cool really cause its a great outfit...

but a lot of clothing is based off of human stuff. it would be cool if they/everyone told others where they got their inspiration from etc... but... if i were to try and make something.. i wouldnt be able to tell you exactly where its from.

same with all the school outfits for school - cosplay - dolls... the school utfits for cosplay are based on real outfits so should they state what school its from?

it really can go either way with names... it might be easier finding something if it had tags related to that anime.

 

I'll say this on the entire situation.

Yes, it is *very* similar. And I feel like deisgners and artists of all kinds deserve respect and ownership of their own creations.

However, the very similar thing is where I draw my point. It's a very generic Lol-esque sort of look. I've seen 1000's of *very similar* things, in clothes, animes and drawings.

It's just like throwing "copyright" issues at the "school uniform" style dollie outfits because they resemble Sailor Moon outfits.

Uh, sorry, SO MANY animes feature that style of school uniform. It was a popular uniform style in Japanese schools for a while.

So, I say it doesn't bother me at all. Shouldn't really bother any one else, either. I'd buy an outfit like that if I liked it, in a darn heartbeat.

 

I see nothing wrong with this. It's a cosplay. If dollmore is wrong then so are cosplayers. Although dollmore is selling this items many cosplayers do buy or even sell their own costumes.
Also I'm wondering why so much out rage for this one yet all the other costumes no one cared about?
The only reason there's a big spazzing is because kuroshitsuji is the new hottest thing. If it was something that wasn't popular I doubt anyone would care.

 

I just find it upsetting that nobody seems to respect intellectual property anymore. Just because you legally can't sue them because its a different media doesn't make it okay. It's the same as the girl here who stole an image off the web from a famous Japanese artist and got it tattooed on her body.

While it's nearly impossible to sue for it, it isn't okay to steal ideas from people.

It isn't "cosplay" because they aren't crediting the series. If it were cosplay, it would say "From Kuroshitsuji." Don't make wild assumptions that because it's popular is the oly reason anyone cares.

= My 2 cents.

 

Cause, y'know, Battle Royale characters were the only people to ever wear tan suits.
Honestly, it's just cosplay. Well, some of it, some of it is just regular clothes that some anime character happens to wear. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Cause this is pretty much like saying "I hate Dollfie Dream because they're a ripoff of my favorite anime character."

 

As it has been said a hundred times, Volks has NEVER ripped off an anime or character. Volks goes through the proper licensing measures from the mothering anime companies to ensure that their products are fully licensed.

 

the funniest thing to me is that it looks nothing like any of her dresses in My Fair Lady xD
it doesn't even look inspired by them. haha

 

I never said that they did rip anything off.
I was just saying that complaining that Dollmore made a "cosplay" outfit and it's a ripoff or whatever, is basically like claiming that Volks ripped off anime characters.
Which they did not.
I already knew that. :\

 

As other commenters have said, this is directly comparable to going to eBay, or the innumerable cosplay resource websites and buying a costume from an independent seamstress or tailor. I can think of one very successful and well known site that exclusively sells cosplay costumes that even carries quite a few based on fan art (they even openly admit these designs are based on fanart, and use the original drawings in their descriptions), which, in turn, also relates back to other examples of the stealing of intellectual property within the doll community.

I’m not saying that just because other businesses that cater to hobby based interests are doing it that it is acceptable or excusable. But what I am trying to point out is that it happens, and when in the case of cosplays, whether for humans or dolls, there is a whole lot of… Shall we say "borrowing" of others’ ideas. Again, is it right? I don’t necessarily agree or disagree with the practice. But I am more inclined to be against it, on the whole, it really depends though.

On one hand, and as has been previously discussed here, the original artist has rendered something unique, something of their own. It can be argued that most any clothing design (and this one is particular, of course) has taken lots of inspiration from other sources. As stated about this dress (I seem to just be repeating everyone else, huh? I guess that happens once a topic has reached a certain length.), the design owes something to My Fair Lady but it also simply harkens back to Lolita fashion in many aspects, so how original is it, really? Anything in this style is just bits and pieces of something already dreamed up (most styles are like this, actually), really, so while the design on the whole is original, the separate parts never really are. But enough of that… You could really attach that argument onto virtually any idea and debate it into eternity.

The second thing to consider here is that the original artist never drafted the pattern and never made the conceptual dress into something three dimensional and wearable. So certain aspects of the doll dress are unique to it, there are traits there that the original art never had. The scale, texture, dimension...

It is a foggy subject. I think it comes down to the consumer, really, and how they feel. We should respect those who like the design and would buy it, but also understand that others feel the original creator should earn something for their work as well. If someone were to buy it, it doesn’t mean they’re lacking in morals or what-have-you, that’s ridiculous. And if someone is put off by the "stealing" or "borrowing" or what have you or ideas, then that’s fine too, they should go with that their judgment suggests.

Personally, I think it’s a cute dress, but the style does nothing for me. The situation here certainly made me raise an eyebrow, but caused no more surprise than many other similar scenarios. It has certainly brought me no distress or made me think differently of Dollmore.

 

I noticed that too! I actually thought it was pretty cool... perhaps they thought no one would notice, lol.

 

IP Anyone? Intellectual Property Rights? Does this apply here?

 

I already mentioned it, but was ignored . . .

 

People have already said this before, that's why. Also, the people who are really bothered about this haven't actually notified the intellectual property holder, so how are they supposed to know this Dollmore dress exists?

 

It's a common rumour.

 

The differences must number at leas 11 to not constitute infringement.