Sock dresses and the anger they seem to generate.

I have hoodies and jumpers made out of sock material. I think they're very cute, and just as nice as the other clothes my doll has. I always buy new socks, instead of using old ones, so I don't see how using that material is any different from using any other new fabric I buy for sewing doll clothes.

They're fun to put detail into, and have conveniently already existent seems. ...Not to mention I've seen some amazing doll clothes made out of socks.

So... Love for well made sock clothes. :"D

 

I know it is unpopular, but there is some truth in it.
Until recently I made enough money, but right now I have a job that is barely giving me enough to pay rent and food. So I wait. Maybe in the future I will get an assignment that pays better. Maybe my financial situation will stay the same. Who knows. Either way, I'm happy.

For me, looking forward to the moment that I can actively take part in this hobby again, is a healthier and more productive way to deal with it, than angsting over the supossed unfairness of my life.

 

Yay that was exactly what my rambling was trying to say. Taco! I have to admit with all the drama, I almost WANT to see badly made sock dresses now just to laugh at it all.

 

s2kitty I really need a "Mostest Ugly Horrifying Sock Dress Evar" contest, criteria being : A. Hideous Sock Dress, Overall Horror, B. No Finishing Whatsoever and C. Most Cluttered with Random Crap Background. Who's in? Oh, and I think extra point for those willing to put their "really nice dolls" in one. I would pay extra to see One-Off Ciera Madoka In Sock Dress. Come on!

 

I have some pretty horrid socks that are about to make their way to the rag bag -- though my dolls might really kill me in my sleep if I put pics of them wearing the awful things up on the internet

 

I absolutely love this!!! I'm keeping notes: we now have "Sock Perps" and "Sock Apathy" to add to the lexicon... I wonder what diagnosis code Sock Apathy would fall under. Is it a stand-alone disease or a full-blown Syndrome?

Oh, btw - absolutely not meant to poke at your post, Taco. As usual it was wonderfully well-written and very thoughtfully stated. Made me stop and ponder for a bit, too. But the new disease just cracked me up. You have such a way with a turn of phrase!

 

Unfortunately, I can't take the credit for that one-- armeleia came up with the term some pages back, but it is so wonderfully descriptive of my condition, lol. I know this thread has gotten heated in places, but it really is a riot

 

I can really identify with this. Luckily - for me - I prefer the unclothed doll! But whenever I get a hankering for some type of costuming it's usually over-the-top LE stuff that costs half the price of the doll! I quaver...

 

- Do you have an aversion to sock dresses?
Well, yes, myself I don't really like to see them. The style I like on dolls though, you cannot make from a sock xD. I would honestly probably not bother looking a picture of a doll if it didn't really fit with what I like looking at, without trying to sound nasty. I know some of my dolls wouldn't appeal to others too, so its all down to the individual really ^^.

- Do you think it makes a doll less of a doll when it doesn't have what the avarage owner calls proper clothing?
Not really, still made of resin, still has a faceup and all the rest.

- Do you think less of the owner when they choose to either have a temporary sockdress or a permanent sock dress?
I think as a permanent thing, there are better clothing to choose from, various different things. But hey, their choice in the end.

- Let me now how you feel about sock dresses in general.
I agree with what a few people have said above, I believe if you will spend over $100 on a doll, then you may as well go the whole hog and spend more on better clothing. It's not something I would really go for on a doll, not even my Pullips and Little Apple Dolls would I put in a sock dress xD, and they would be considered "cheaper dolls"

I can honestly say though, sock dresses don't make me feel anger xD

 

It is! It just makes me giggle!

And in that case, kudos to our Fearless Leader for the new medical term! And Taco, you still always have a marvelous way with a phrase, so I'm not taking that compliment back.

 

No, not at all. But if I may gently suggest an alternative viewpoint... the generic opinion in question was given in person to a person who was wearing EXACTLY what the negative opinion was about, at the time the opinion was given. Face to face.

I'd suggest that there's a middle ground in a situation like that -- where it could easily be misread as a direct insult rather than a generic opinion. It's just simple courtesy. Wait till the person is dressed in, oh, I don't know, BROWN and then say "you know, I really am not fond of pink with sparkles." They get the idea without being confronted by what they're in at that very moment being the object of disdain.

 

Exactly. And though she might have said "oh, I didn't notice it", maybe she should try to notice it before popping something off. It's called looking out for your fellow human's feelings = empathy. Of course, she also said she didn't think she would get along with this person by how she acted, yet she was on a shopping trip with them, so perhaps she just withdrew from the situation and didn't care if she offended or not.

With the entire 'whatever' attitude of a lot of people on this thread, it's almost as if a lot of the people on here don't care if they offend people these days or not. It makes me wonder, where were your parents\caretakers\teachers when you were being formed? Didn't you learn to take into account the feelings of the people around you?

Granted, I'm not saying not to be genuine to what you feel, but there is a time and place for everything.

If you see someone's doll wearing a "nappy" sock dress, it offends you, don't say anything.

If they say, "OMG, do you like this sock dress?"

That's when you say, "Honestly, I think if you tried this or this, it might look better."

If they get offended, that's their deal. They asked. If they don't ask, don't say anything. It's called being polite. We remember that, right?

Edited to add: I think I've said my peace, we're 12 pages in and people are going to be as they are. I'm out.

 

I think any type of material can be a valid one. I am sure there are amazing dresses and outfits made out of socks. It would be an interesting use to some favorite socks that are just wearing out. Of course, it is just like any other material. If it is done well it rocks. If not, then it rocks less.

Personally, I think anybody that can make outfits for dolls out of anything is awesome because I can't sew.

 

I've seen some ADORABLE and AMAZING sock clothes. I really have. I'm in awe of how something so cute and wonderful was made out of a sock. I wish I had the ability to do that, cuz I could save a FORTUNE in doll clothes money. hehe

That being said, it's rare that a good seamstress who can actually make cute and awesome things from socks comes around. Most people, like me, don't have the wherewithal to make something out of a sock. And when we try, atrocious results ensue.

So you want to put socks on your dolls? Go for it. It's not my doll. Maybe you can make something great out of that poor, lonely right sock. Maybe you can't. It's your doll, go nuts! Sock clothes don't enrage me. Definitely not. There are far more important things in the world to save my irritation for. XD

 

I wish this forum had the "Yeah, this icon."

I see this repeatedly in debate in discussion threads here on DoA. Be it about sock dresses, made in China BJDs, Volks, Luts, DoD, whatever people have very strong opinions about. There seems to be so many people here where it's insult my doll and you're insulting me, which I just find perplexing. Your doll is not alive, its feelings can not be hurt. If I don't like cross eyed dolls and post it on a debate thread about the attractiveness of cross-eyed dolls I am not insulting all owners of cross eyed dolls.

Kohaku Tenshi, I know you said you're leaving but I just wanted to say, from what I've seen in this thread none of the people who dislike sock dresses (or cross-eyed dolls or doll wearing pink sequins, etc.) are actually saying to other owners or posting in gallery threads where people are sharing dolls in sock dresses (or pick whatever people are upset that someone doesn't like) in threads featuring dolls in sock dresses (whatever is the get upset item of the day) that they take issue with this. In fact people instead are saying that they pick to either not view such threads or just hit the back button and don't comment. The only example where someone said something that another person took offense at had absolutely nothing to do with dolls.

This is a debate/discussion thread where people should be allowed to share opinions. If the people who were saying they dislike sock dresses were harassing people in gallery posts or sending PMs to people who shared pictures of their dolls in sock dresses I would completely agree with you about people needing some empathy and manners... But this is a debate thread and I don't think giving a more honest opinion in a debate thread is rude.

 

This. I will confess to being less-than-tactless, but we'd only known each other for two days at that point and my care for her thoughts and feelings pretty much went out the window when she slammed her cart into a Walmart employee on purpose. As I said in my earlier post, her attitude was deplorable, that is why we did not get along.

Mind you, I'm not going to coddle anyone either; if I feel that I like kittens better than puppies or I like being a housewife and the topics come up in a conversation, I'm going to say so -- probably just like that (believe it or not, I know my own speech patterns!). The dog-lovers and feminists can be as offended as they want, call me all the names they want, call me as "insensitive" and "tactless" as they want. It's not my problem they're offended by statements and preferences that do not affect them. On the flipside to that, I don't expect them to censor themselves around ME either.

In the end, though ... well, whatever. This thread is supposed to be about socks dresses, not my personal lack of empathy for all of humanity.

 

I wasn't going to post again. Really, I wasn't.

But my birthday was this weekend, so I'll cut me a little slack.

Let's face it, when most of us hear the term "sock dress", the first thing that comes to mind is an old, worn, shabby mismatched sock with the toe cut off and the doll jammed into it. Even an afficionado of exploring the creative potential of sock couture, such as myself, has to concede that harsh fact. On the other hand, if the right base sock is chosen, and a little effort put into it, if the creator doesn't say "I made this from a sock," sometimes you can't even tell. That's the real test of making quality doll clothing from socks, I think--making something that doesn't scream "castoff sock" from, well, a castoff sock.

I still hold firmly to my opinion--and yes, that's all it is, everybody's got one, yadda yadda, here's mine--that making something yourself, something you can be proud of, is a hundred times more significant than buying a ready-made outfit. Not better, not more praiseworthy, but certainly more gratifying. If you use the right sock, and have good instructions, even a non-seamstress can make something they're not ashamed to photograph on their doll. Just don't advertise the fact that it was once a sock and nobody need be offended.

In my earlier posts, I never meant to seem like I was insisting that you're an elitist snob if you don't like sock dresses or anything, no matter how well-made, that might have once been a sock. It's not the preferences that bother me, it's the attitude of "If you dress your doll in sock material, you need to GTFO of the hobby." No, nobody said that in so many words, but that's the feeling I get from several of the prior posts.

I will also reiterate here that anything badly made, whatever the original source material, is not to my personal taste. If you give an honest effort, even if you're not the best artisan in the world, that effort will show. If you just cut a few holes and call it good, that's not an effort, but if it's all you want, go for it.

Aaaaaand I'm starting to ramble, so I'll shut up now. :X

 

Kim, thank you! I'm also nobody to judge people on any side of this discussion, I just express my opinion answering to topicstarter.

 

Same here, that's why I go for so long sometimes in between visiting the boards. I don't feel comfortable around those kinds of attitudes. It's the attitude of "Well, if they can afford a doll then they can afford to buy it clothes instead of putting it in ugly clothes. If you can't buy it clothes then you shouldn't be in this hobby so GTFO" attitude that gets me. And you can't deny that it's an elitist, snobby attitude.