Soom Idealian: Hyperon - Dhampir

That's been my take on all of these issues, actually. I've kept a consistent position on this issue, because... I'm not a lawyer. DANG if I haven't seen people react with even more ignorance than I have on this issue from time to time, though -- at least I have the luck of having had to work with legally licensed material in the past in a legal way and have a teensy bit of understanding about just how dazzlingly complicated it is -- I know just enough to know how much I don't know. I see a lot of people screaming like they know everything who... don't. They're just frothing out of outrage.

This is the first one I'd consider buying, but the reason I avoided the others had nothing to do with the controversy, and everything to do with this silly notion that I shouldn't spend vast chunks of money on things I have no interest in or don't like. Crazy talk, I know.

Seriously. Don't invite the people who froth for sport in to continue frothing for sport. That seems to be what people are crying out to have happen. This forum isn't for frothing for sport. Is anyone else sick to frickin' death of it? Mercy knows I was way back on the Nobility FrothFest, and I am seriously glad I missed whatever the Ringdoll one was.

Edit: For all the people saying 'Oh people are just saying it's ok because it's Soom' -- how many of the same people are commenting? And have any of them changed their opinion on the broader issue? I'd find it interesting and suspicious if they had, but if it isn't the same crowd of posters, or if none of the posters in all convos have changed their positions, this whinging about hypocrisy is woefully misplaced -- more pointless outrage, seriously, do we really need outrage over lack of outrage? SERIOUSLY?!

 

Trust me, Surreality, I've been sick of it since it first happened. You're not the only one.

 

Can we stop the debating? ^^ It's very crystal clear that he doesn't come from whatever manga/anime you mentioned. A similarity is not the same as a minimee. A minimee is created to copy, this one clearly isn't. >.> Same outfit doesn't mean it's the same character, every doll on earth can cosplay but it's a cosplay for me... ^^ nothing more. Not an imitation... simply similar. o.O I don't know why you guys fuss so much. If people who think he's okay and not okay stop fuming, maybe the debating will stop? ^^ It's everyone's rights to buy or not to buy...

 

I hope you do it! To me it's always been a question of fairness. If it's okay for Soom's homage then it should be okay for Ringdoll and Nobility Doll.

 

*sends flowers and chocolate* Seriously, I just want to enjoy the pretty and my happy hobby that is supposed to be free of witch hunts. Glad I am not the only one who feels that way.

 

I don't think it's so much flaming as genuinely asking people to consider calling others out on hypocrisy.
That said, as stated in my post, I'm considering trying to purchase him, because I have no problem with homage/inspired-by dolls. I wanted a Judge, and I certainly want this Hyperion's head.
I'm more irritated that there's attempts to insist that he doesn't look like he was inspired by D than anything else. Personally, I'd love a Vampire Hunter D in my collection.

 

All of this. I think there is a debate thread already on the subject. If my non-offensive simple question is being ignored so people can go GRAH RAWR ANGRY then I'm leaving this thread too.

Man I haven't been around long enough to know what the other major incidences people are talking about homage/copying whatever, and from what I'm reading here pretty glad I wasn't

 

Obviously, you're not. >.> And I don't understand it all. There are only 1 or 2 unhappy campers who should not make us unhappy, too. I never even smirk once at Ringdoll's Judges (whatever that is because I'm not a fan of RD), but the outrage seems to get bigger when it involves a bigger company with more fans. =_=

Back to topic, everyone. ^^ Back to the gorgeous doll... *drools* SO! Who's getting Hyperon? X3

 

I am really going to try to. It would be a lonnnnnnnnnng layaway, but since the Amano-style-ish resemblance was what initially made me such a squeaky Soom fangirl, I am sooooo all over this one.

And, yeah. Seems like Soom is the first runner up to Volks for the 'random company to develop a hate-on about'. (Lucky them... )

And, for the folks who are pining for a D, in case they do pull him over the eleventy-one-festival-of-outrage -- seriously, peek at the Sabik elf, picture him out of the elfygarb. It's impressively close.

 

*Nomnoms on and shares hot chocolate with in return. 8>* Yeah, it's just downright ridiculous at this point. The only time I think there's any reason to do anything is when it's an outright recast. Unless the original creator comes forward and asks for the company to remove the dolls from their listing, it's not our place to say.

I have to agree with MCPO, though. There's no denying that this is D. I've been a fan of D for years, and while I'm no expert, the moment I saw him, there was no doubt in my mind who they were referencing. True, he can be used for other things. He would make a good Van Helsing and a good Alucard, sure. If you didn't know about the series VHD and didn't notice the resemblance, that's fine, but saying there's "no resemblance whatsoever" is just going to the other extreme of the "OMGCOPYRIGHT VIOLATIONS!" spectrum and just making it worse.

 

The Minimees aren't the problem here, granted, I think the Minimee is a different situation altogether because they are a commision service. What Soom is doing is selling a doll that is inspired by Vampire Hunter D and people seem to be giving them the pass while they screamed copyright infringement at Nobility Doll's Edward Moon (inspired from Twilight) and Ringdoll's Grell (I forgot the name of the anime). So much so that said companies pulled the dolls from their website. It hardly seems fair in my opinion.

 

I've already said it, and I so mean it. If I can, I'm getting him. HOLY CRAP, do I want to get him! Now...my sister just needs to get a job and start pulling her weight within the next few weeks so I can afford him. He's BEAUTIFUL! And...yeah...D. D is amazing! Auuuuugh, I want him so bad!

 

Why don't you make another thread and accumulate followers? Or maybe we should make our own Hyperon thread and shoo people who don't like him out of that? ^^ Sorry but I'm just tired of all the debating. I don't like Vampire Hunter D whatever that is, and I'm a Twilight hater, and I've never been to Ringdoll... =A=

 

Because multiple threads on the same doll will be merged by the Moderators no matter what. Unless the topic is about copyright infringement dolls, which I believe already exists.

 

Then go there and fume all you want. o.O It's obvious that you and I don't belong in the same category and don't like to be together. I'll ask the mods about this. Hopefully we can get your SOOM hater thread soon. Thank you.

 

And this right here is what I'm talking about. It isn't copyright infringement, it's in another legal category all together. Seriously. Not the same thing.

Seriously, who are these people OK with this and not OK with other things? Or is it, maybe, that different people are posting, and the thinking on this issue is not so universal as the frothers would like it to be? I realize ZOMGOUTRAGE makes people go rageblind, but really. I am not seeing anybody who said 'EVIL' in the nobility thread saying 'YAYTEAM' here.

 

Fransyung, this is a thread about the doll. When Judges came out, the discussion thread about him was FILLED with people arguing this very same point. Just because you don't like what we're discussing, doesn't make it any less reasonable to discuss it here.
I'm sorry you don't like hearing that and that apparently its resemblance to other dolls doesn't seem to effect you but it IS something that needs to be talked about.
This ISN'T about Soom hating, it's about the fact that we're talking about this doll some how being above this discussion because Soom made it.
It's a valid point that needs to be talked about, much like it was with Judges and Edward Moon.
Honestly, you throwning the moniker of "Soom Hater" on people talking about the hypocrasy of the situation isn't helping. It's just showing a more childish side to a valid debate.
Besides, I don't think a Soom hater would own a Monzo, two Epidos', a Breccia, a Galena and COUNTLESS Soom MD parts.

 

Excuse me, I didn't say I hate Soom, I'm just pointing out the cognitive dissonance that seems to be happening when tribute dolls are involved. Frankly, I don't care if they are tribute dolls are not.

 

Is it? Who says?

Again, I'm asking: who is saying this? Who has changed their position on the issue for this doll only? I am not seeing it. I am seeing a different tone here... but I am also seeing different participants. It's sortakinda relevant.