Hello, all! I'm trying to collect a list of dolls that have special shoulder joints. By this I don't mean the typical single ball and socket style joint of most bjds, but jointing systems that try to imitate the natural movement of a real person's shoulder in order to allow shrugging, increased arm movement, etc. So far I have: Pasha Pasha dolls Marmite Sue dolls Ancient Tales new 1/4 Fashion dolls Bimong new Narae body (1/4 and I believe 1/3 as well) Some bjds have an extra "cap" on the shoulder which seems meant to aid posing (I can think of many examples, such as Supia's new 65cm female body, the Twigling/Artifex Kindred dolls, etc.), but I'm more interested in joints similar to those of the dolls above. Does anyone know of any other examples? I would love to see how different artists have tackled the problem of this complicated joint. Thank you!