Unidoll - Unilimited resale

I don't quite get all of the complaints either - so far the faceups look not bad and not all that different from the one on my UH-08 (one of the original French resin dolls from 3 years ago or so).

Yep, they're floppy. Um, so tighten the strings. That's what I did and it's simple. And it's really GOOD string, too (especially given the Resinsoul Long body I had to restring a couple of weeks ago because he comes with teeny string more suited for a Yo sized doll).

I really didn't find anything to complain about on my doll aside from that. Anyone going into this ought to have known these were previously discontinued dolls -- They're not 2009 technology, they're from what 2006? 2007? I'm delighted with mine and I certainly can't fault DDE for shipping her in the box she arrived in... I mean, really. o_O I'm not sure exactly why Unidoll shipped them in Real sized boxes, but DDE has no control over that and they are just a distributor, after all.

Oh and ETA: The "Promo" pictures? and the bodies? and everything else? are from that time period as well. I can't even imagine expecting a re-issue from the old molds, in a *different kind of resin* no less, to actually look identical to 3-4 year old pictures.

They were just showing us the line as it used to be available, and re-offering it as a nod to those of us who never got the chance to order them in French Resin and really wanted to get some of the older face sculpts. I personally think it's a fantastic thing of them to have done.

Now, the deal with smooshed eyelashes and chipped faceups is different. *That* issue, I absolutely agree with everyone on; if nothing else, wrap the faces in that soft foam stuff Volks uses to hold the face covers on with. I think you deserve some sort of compensation for having that be damaged.

 

I didn't need to restring or sued my UH-14 right away as she arrived (in march 2007!) pretty well strung and French resin has a bit more "structure" to it that makes posing easy. She's a pretty stable when standing and she's great at posing for a doll with single joints, but everytime the tension in the elastic becomes less and the doll gets floppy she's really hard to pose. Restinging always fixes that with my UH-14.

 

Thanks for giving your input everyone. It is all very helpful.

I am still excited about getting my boy because I think I can deal with tightening his stringing and the scupts look even better in RL than in the promo photos from 2006-7. Hopefully, he won't come damaged or heavily sanded. I had always planned to do my own face-up anyway, so it really should'nt matter that he won't come with a face-cover.

What is the shipping charge from DDE I wonder...

 

vinge - thank you for the pictures! I was torn between getting the 08 or the 01.
I hope to see many pictures of both of your new resins!

 

Eee!! Uh-08 is just as scrumptuous in urethane resin as he is in French resin!

Now then, Vinge, which girl have you got there? (I'm so NOT an expert on girl dolls...) She's lovely.

 

I'll answer for Vinge since she is probably sleeping right now, She is a UH-15, and I agree she is really lovely.

 

I would like to clarify a few things. With at least the boys, the body is a NEW version compared to the old. I've photographed a few of the differences. Also, if you thought the urethane resin is yellow, you haven't seen how dark the french resin was.

Some of the differences between the new and old:
Slimmer hips on the new
Different hip joints on the new
The new is thinner and shorter over all
The calves are thinner
The new has fused toes, the old can wear flipflops. The toes on the new are resculpted.
There are more markings, including one in the torso stating that it is the version II of the body.
Inside the torso has been resculpted.

I have taken a series of photos to illustrate these differences as well as the damages on my doll. I need to take a few more in better light, I wasn't able to capture all the damages with my meager indoor light. However, you can see that I found even more issues than I originally thought.

Photos are not work/kid safe and include full nudity.

 

FunnyLori -- you seem very certain, but I can find no mention on the Unidoll site anywhere about the old bodies having been resculpted for the resale event. I just went and checked because I didn't remember seeing anything like that...

I really can't see any differences that couldn't be accounted for by the fact that they had to recast these guys in a different kind of resin. Many of the threads here on DoA regarding recastings have shown that details are lost and overall dimensions shrink a tiny bit because of the recasting process. The toes, for example, look identical to me - it's just that on your older doll they were finished more thoroughly - that is, someone removed all the material that accumulates between the toes during the casting process, and sanded very carefully. That was NOT done on our urethane versions, but then companies don't seem to do that any more, anyway.

Not that it really makes a lot of difference, after all; the body is what it is. I'm just really curious as to whether we missed something along the way. I sure can't find anything.


ETA: I *do*, however, see the dings, scratches, and poor finishing you were talking about. Now, that kind of thing doesn't bother me much, but that's just me. It obviously bothers you, though, and you definitely have a valid complaint in that area.

Didn't want you to think I'm totally discounting your concerns, because some of them are entirely correct.

 

The shrinkage would be in every direction, not just top to bottom, so that explains the thinness as well. So just the change in resin has been the biggest cause for noticeable change. Wow.
The sanding scratches... well mine has quite a few on chest and belly, but they are very difficult to see. You have to get him in just the right light. And I'm just too busy goofing out over his face, to see much of anything else right now. *____*
Some seamlines that have been sanded off are quite visible, but I don't know, I'm just not bothered by it.

I do have to admit, all those pictures just make me sad that I missed out on the original French Resin version. He looks so darned good!
Though I love my new little Huey to bits.

 

Congrats Sint, girl is on the way.

Sanding is not perfect, somewhere is and somewhere is not. On boy I find low dots ( as from needle) and on left thigh is curious "seam".

But I think, that price is cheaper.
I have most doll second hand and I am not exacting. I am glad that I buy they.

 

I have not had an experience with a new doll or any doll for that matter with sanding problems...now granted this will be my first SD size doll, but I have probably owned at least 12 dolls so far. Mainly I have heard about seams not being sanded and people having to sand them after the purchase, not seams and other areas being poorly sanded with lots of scratches directly from the company. Oh well, there is always something new to learn in this hobby it seems...

Sint: So glad your girl is finally getting closer and almost home! I bet she does make it before Christmas after all.

Here is the updated status on who has received their dolls so far:

Sculpt Vendor Face-up
Sint: UH-03 Unidoll No
Luckyl: UH-06 DDE No
FunnyLori: UH-17 DDE Yes Received
Gracie: UH-09 DDE ? Received
Despair06: UH-21 DDE Yes
aernath: UH-01 Unidoll No Received
62kitty: UH-08 and UH-14
prettyhatemachine: UH-21
vinge: UH-08 and UH-15 Unidoll YesRecieved
gypsydale: UH-21 Unidoll Yes
Baakay: UH-3 DDE No Recieved

I know 62Kitty. prettyhatemachine, and possibly Despair06 ordered early in September...wonder if they have received their dolls yet.

 

In person, these differences in the sculpt that I am noticing are very apparent that they are NOT just shrinking problems. The new body even says VERSION II inside the torso. Just because they didn't mention that they changed the body, doesn't mean they didn't do it. I do know a thing or two about casting parts, I do my own casting for replacement doll parts every so often for commissions. There are very noticeable differences between the parts of the two bodies aside from just the size. Also, I have sanded more dolls seams personally than most, I am aware of how properly sanded seams should look and I don't give my opinion of this poor quality lightly. They shouldn't have sanded areas on the chest unless they were trying to hide something, and they didn't really get all the seamlines, more they sanded details off and left lumps and divots around the body as if they were trying to hide flaws in the casting.

I do have a doll here from 2007 to compare to. The toes are definately resculpted - they were not just left with flashing. That would have been non-issue for me, because it is easy enough to clean that junk out. I'm surprised that Unidoll would go so far to resculpt some parts and then recast so many others given how well known it is that the quality of parts goes down considerably with recasts. It is like they just didn't care at all about the quality of these dolls.

The marks on the thigh and the sanding are most definitely not marbling or shipping damages. The thigh mark is raised and a run where the resin was dripped along the part. I truly feel Unidoll was careless with the creation of this doll and I hope that every one else's don't come with the same issues.

 

It really does sound like quality control was seriously lacking on your doll and perhaps some of the others. I have never heard of professional companies sending out dolls with drip marks and scratches from over zealous sanding in places that should not have been sanded or needed it if they had been poured properly. These dolls were not cheap by any stretch of the imagination either which should not be a concern anyway-dolls that sell for 1/2 the price we paid are sent in better shape than this.

FunnyLori, I seriously hope you have contacted DDE and Unidoll with these issues. I am so curious what they offer to do about it. They should offer you a new doll or refund your money. Please keep us updated of the outcome.

 

Well obviously the rest of us who see no differences in the toes, who also have French resin dolls from the very first year to compare, and who have done loads of sanding, modding, and so forth are complete idiots.

I mean there is certainly a possibility that they tweaked the original body somewhere back along - maybe in 2006 or 2007 when they were still doing limiteds -- but they haven't been making this style body since shortly after they started doing the Real line. It's not a NEW body.

He has some pinhole bubbles and things that should have been caught at the factory. That's obvious. He wasn't perfectly cast (although the problems you point out in your pictures aren't things that leap out at me, and they would be covered with clothing anyway). He had a chip on his faceup, THAT's obvious. He has some scratches. He's not sanded, but again, I see very few places sending out perfectly finished dolls unless you pay extra, which we did not have the option for (as you would with, say, Volks, for three times the price and precisely the same materials).

Seriously. Talk to Unidoll. Talk to DDE, although they had nothing to do with the manufacture of your doll -- they just acted as your middleman. SELL him. He's beautiful. There are people who would love to have him. If I didn't have two other dolls on layaway I'd grab him up from you so that you wouldn't be in such obvious distress over him.

Just...

Enough. I'm outta here; hope everyone else enjoys their beautiful new Undiolls as much as I do. Sint, hurrah! I'm so glad they located your girl!

 

I ordered mione one 27 of September...still no word from DDE yet

 

Good to hear from you Despair06. It is nice not to be alone during the final wait.

The faces of the sculpts that have come in look a bit fuller or rounder than in the old promo pics-is it just me or does anyone else see that as well? I think that is why I think the RL sculpts have looked even better to me than the photos.