Wiping a Limited Face Up

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?

I have no problem with it. Abjds are meant to be customized, and if a new faceup will allow the owner to enjoy their doll more, it makes sense to redo it.

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?

Not necessarily. There might be some people that would prefer to buy it in it's original form, but not everyone is like that. A really well done faceup could make the head that much more interesting to somebody. The hobby is big and varied enough that I'm sure there would be buyers who would value the head the same if not more depending on the artist.

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?

The head sculpt is the most important. Actually, a lot of company faceups don't work for my characters, so there would always be a chance that I'd end up redoing the original faceup anyway.

 

I have no problem with wiping off a limited faceup. I would take a pic to keep the memory of it because that's just me but if I can't stand the eyebrows, eyeshadow or something else but love the rest of the faceup, I would keep what I liked and redo the rest. The way I see it is that these dolls are meant to become more special and unique than when you bought them because they belong to you. I wouldn't buy a LE doll because I like the face or the clothes- I like to like the majority of the combination to justify me buying the doll in the first place. So a little flaw in the faceup compared to my happiness I've getting my dream doll is something I can live with.

 

Well I am kind of torn on this one. I guess people can do what they want with a doll but recently, I fund out a girl bid on Avvelenato's Amelia head and then wiped the face-up immediately for a new one. The new face-up to me was not even great and she was complaining that this head was modded and so she want to send it back to Volks to exchange for a new one. That angered me because Avvelenato has disappeared for awhile now and I'm sure a fan of hers would love to bid on that head and keep it as it is.

So if this person wants to send the Avvelenato head she bid on back to Volks in exchange for a new one, she should have just bidded on a default Amelia head that had no modification and left this Avvenlenato custom head alone for someone that really wants to keep it as it is. I don't know why she even bidded on Avvelenato's head in the first place and then complains about it. She said the auction ended a little lower than a default Amelia head but if she wants to send it back to Volks in exchange for a new one, the price for it all is more than just buying a default Amelia head. So I think what she did was basically pointless and taking that head away from someone that really wants it as it is and keep it as it is. That angered me a great deal. Especially when she was complaining about this and that about the head blah blah blah blah I wanted to bash her face in -_-++

Maybe it's because I'm a fan of Avvelenato. I don't know. But I was very upset with this person.

I had a one-off dreaming Lucas by Valico in my possession in the past. I really like Valico and the face-up is really nice and pretty. However it was not for me. But I didn't dare to wipe the face-up because I am sure someone else would love to keep him as he is. And I just didn't feel right to wipe the face-up of Valico!

So I sold him as he is, then bought a blank dreaming Lucas head later on so I can do whatever I want with THAT one.

I think wiping a one-off face-up is kind of wrong because it was a one-off. But if it's a mass production limited face-up that's done in stream-line (like all the limited Volks dolls), or a default face-up, I think it is ok because it is not unique. If it is a custom head by someone, I also wouldn't buy it just to clean it for a new face-up. With custom heads I'd only buy it if I like the way it looks. Because afterall, it is being sold as a custom, if I want that particular head, I'd buy a default one or blank and then do whatever I want with it. I wouldn't bid on a custom head by an artist and then wipe it clean. That's how I feel.

 

Aren't face ups kind of considered temporary or likely to degrade anyway?

If a faceup was very sought after, as someone else said, it might be a very nice gesture to offer to trade it with someone who wanted it and already had a blank head of the same doll before destroying the faceup. I don't see that it decreases the value of the doll unless the value of the doll is based on it's faceup in the first place.

I imagine I would buy a limited doll without it's original faceup as I think the prospect of making your own faceups is one of the major draws of BJD's in the first place

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?
As you said an outright limited, not a limited faceup? Pshaw. Forget that. Wipe it if you want.
If the faceup is why it's limited...hm. Perhaps it'd be crass. But then again, person should have just bought the normal head version in that case, so I couldn't care less. Honestly, I'm contemplating losing the faceup on a limited I want to buy...but I may consider splitting her and buying a separate head for her instead.
Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?
Naaaah. People want the doll more than the painting, I'm sure.
Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?
Meh. Can always get a new faceup. Heck, sometimes I'd PREFER it. Unless the faceup was a big deal, like a Nocturna Circus Pierrot or something, I think I'd want it blank more.

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?
Doesn't bother me. It's just a little paint.

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the original face up?
If the value is considered how much to resell it for, yes. I think a doll is worth less than you bought it for the moment you take it out of the box. If you've customized it and wiped it clean, it should definitely be listed for cheaper than you purchased it. Personally, I don't have much of a preference with faceups. They can be company, they can be commissioned, or they can be my own. Whatever makes the doll look the way I want is all that matters to me.

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?
The sculpt is the important part. If I want a doll enough to consider buying it, particularly something pricier because it limited, than the faceup is irrelevant. If I'm buying the doll, I want the sculpt, not someone else's idea of what he or she should look like. However, I'm the sort of person who wouldn't look twice at a limited doll simply for its status as limited.

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?

Well, if you love the sculpt but the faceup is not that good (insert *yep, I hate it * here), it's the buyer's choice. As with everything else related to their doll.

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?

Well, if you paid dearly for the faceup too, yes. Of sorts. I mean that as a "If you sell the doll with everything but the original faceup and try to get the faceup money back too, then yes. It drops the doll's value" kind of situation. I don't know if I make sense. Anyway, it doesn't matter its monetary value, as long as sentimental value is still the same for the owner.

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?

I've bought a few LE this summer, and all of them with default faceup. I have to like the faceup too to buy a doll, limited or not.

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That said, I must say I feel somewhat bad for the people working hard to do the default faceups for us. I'm silly like that ^^;;;

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?

I would not do it myself if I liked the faceup, or if the only thing making it limited was the faceup (but I am unlikely to buy a limited that is only based on faceup/outfit).For things like Soom MD's I see no issue because hey, they are original sculpts anyways!


Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?

Absolutely. The monetary collectors value drops, because if it's faceup is gone, it might not even be considered LE anymore, right? I mean, if it's just a Shiwoo with a special face or something. However, the sentimental value can stay the same, if the owner still loves the doll.


Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?
Y-E-S. Soom's MD is one example, I don't like some of the faceups, or they don't fit my idea for the doll. Most I do like, but some I would like to customize~! :3

 

In all honesty, I don't much like most limited faceups. Even if I weren't getting a limited doll for a character, if I don't like his/her faceup I'd probably just wipe it off for one I'd prefer. I mean, there's no point getting a doll and hating the face but not doing anything about it just because it's ~Limited~.

Edit: My answer's in reference to limited sculpts itself and not popular faceup artists' one-offs. If it were a one-off but I could get the blank sculpt somewhere I agree with Izam, I wouldn't get the one-off because somebody else who's a fan and who likes the faceup would definitely want the one-off.

 

Something is only ever going to be worth what one person is willing to pay for it. Therefore if someone really wanted the doll but it didn't come with the limited face up that had been wiped, it really wouldn't matter! It just may be the case that another person who is more interested in the collectibility rather than the playing side of things wouldn't pay as much. Personally it wouldn't matter to me if the face up wasn't the original limited, I just want a face up of a good standard regardless XD

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll ?
They make that they want, honey ^^

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up ?
No, I don't think (not for me). It's the mold the more important (by cons, maybe not in the case of a limited draw an other doll of the compagny, for example : the limited Petite Ai of Custom House).

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important ?
Same answer : It's the mold the more important (by cons, maybe not in the case of a limited draw an other doll of the compagny, for example : the limited Petite Ai of Custom House - same if they make white skin only limited, the make-up is a little important in this case, no ? ^^).

 

I know, owwww! Ow ow ow OW. :{ It hurts when that happens -- to look at a lackluster doll & know that it was once an exquisite thing like an Avvelanato. Yes, of course people can do what they want, but sometimes it sure hurts everybody else's eyes. We just have to wince + bear it (and keep one finger on the Back button).

No, that's very untrue. Overbroad assumption, as well as untrue. It's easy to keep your doll's faceup nice & clean & undamaged without leaving the doll permanently untouched-- you just have to develop a non-grubby style of play. I have many LE faceups in this house that are 5+ years old, and don't need any repainting, because I handle the dolls carefully. (I intend to keep their faceups, too.)

 

Avvelanato I'm not aware of, but I'd have a hard time wiping a Valico or K. Mayura One-Off, that's for sure. I agree with Izam: regular LEs I wouldn't worry about wiping the faceup (unless I really liked it - the only thing limited on my Abadon beyond one of his hands is his faceup, and I'm leaving it intact as long as possible because I think it's gorgeous), but realllly limited faceups like One-Offs or artist repaints/customs would make me feel bad.

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?

*shrugs* their doll their choice, I'd probably do it to mine too

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?

nope, faceups dont' last forever, they chip and smudge etc. you'd eventually have to get a new one

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?

I'd buy without the faceup, it's the mold that is limited, or maybe the outfit... but either way, the faceup isn't important, I paint my own lol

 

I totally agree with you. There's nothing more to say.

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?
Some faceups might not suit the character people had in mind for their doll so wiping and redoing it is kind of the only way to go. I got my doll with his limited faceup and man, it was bad. I didn't wipe it off but I had to alter it because looking at him made me sick to my stomach (at how much I paid for a faceup that didn't look like the pictures).

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?
I don't see how it would. The actual doll is the the important part...not its faceup.

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?
Definitely the head is more important.

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?

That's completely fine? .3.; I buy my dolls to customize them so why would I want to keep a default faceup forever if I don't like it? If I do like it and/or it fits my character it's alright but there's no reason to keep a doll in it's default otherwise... Half my limited dolls are prime examples of this.

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?

Not at all. The sculpt is what matters, not the faceup. Faceups chip, fade and sealant often yellows with age so they need to be cleaned at some point anyway.

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?

I'd buy with or without faceup and keep or change the faceup as needed.

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?
It's their doll, they can do what they like with it. As long as it makes them happy!

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the original face up?
Not really, no. It might be unfortunate if they're trying to sell the doll, and someone sees it and thinks "Oh! I'd love the X faceup!" but it's wiped. But what can you do? I can't imagine it'd make any difference really~

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the original face up, or is the actual limited head more important?
If I was specifically after the original face up, I would only buy a head with it. If I was that intense about a particular face up, I wouldn't settle for anything less.

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?

I think if it's extra (most dolls I see don't come with the face up), it'd be a waste of money to get it and wipe it, but if you're unhappy with it then I think you should feel free to. It's your doll, and if the face up doesn't work, it's better to find one that does. Besides, this hobby is all about customization and its perks.

Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?

Not necessarily. If it's just about a being a collectable item, it may, but a lot of people get dolls to make them into their own character.

Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?

I look at the mold. For me, it's all about lines of the face. Make up can be changed. Facial structure.... not as much or as easy.

 

How do you feel about people wiping the faceup of a limited doll?
It's their doll, their money so of course they are free to do whatever pleased them.
Do you feel that the value of the doll drops because it doesn't have the orginal face up?
I wouldn't say that, as for the face up as long as original sculpt is kept it can be made once again.
Also, would you buy a limited doll without the orginal face up, or is the actual limited head more important?
I bought a limited doll without the face up as i just love the mold. Once you have the doll you can make it anyway you want it, even commission somebody skillfull to do the face up similar to the original one plus you can add your own suggestions for it so it's even better.