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5th Motif
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5th Motif is operated by Korean artist Mr. Cho. The first doll, Venitu, was formerly sold on Dollshe's website. Head sculpts and the 70cm Timeless body have since been discontinued, starting on December 30th, 2015. Mr. Cho kindly opened one last ordering period in November of 2017.
Resin colors as cast by Dollshe: Pure Skin (Pale, Fresh, Oriental, Copper Oriental, Pale Tan, Tan, Ebony, Diamond Gray, Modern Gray, Dark Gray, Elf Green, and Avatar Blue); Honey Skin
Contents
Sculpts
Measurements
Timeless body
- Height: 70cm
- Head circumference: 22.5cm
- Eyes: 12mm
- Neck girth: 13cm
- Shoulder width: 18cm
- Chest: 33.5cm
- Back length: 17cm
- Arm length: 23.5cm
- Upper arm girth: 11cm
- Lower arm girth: 10cm
- Wrist girth: 6cm
- Hand length: 7cm
- Waist: 23cm
- Hips: 34cm
- Pubic bone to tip of foot length: 43.5cm
- Leg length: 37cm
- Upper leg girth: 18.5cm
- Lower leg girth: 13.5cm
- Ankle girth: 8.7cm
- Foot length: 9.9cm
- Foot width: 4cm
Clothing
- SartoriaJ British Dress Uniform - Fits very well, good shoulder width and trouser length. Slightly loose in the waist, sleeves are a little short, and the pants are a bit tight around the groin area (as the Timeless Body is somewhat, quote, inconveniently well-endowed.)
Tops
- Iplehouse EID Model
- Iplehouse SID short sleeved shirts - long sleeves tend to be on the short side
- Hound size clothes - only material that can stretch
- rRabit 70cm sweaters
- M3 Studio Taobao - choose size IPEID模特体 (available for select items)
- Lattice shirts: broad enough for the shoulders, but baggy overall
- Dollclans S line shirt - a little big
- Leekeworld shirts - questionable
- Nine9style 70cm/SD17 baggy shirts - a bit tight
- Nine9style 70cm/SD17 t-shirt
- Tata’s Paradise: SSDF tops
- Tata’s Paradise: some 70cm shirts
- TTYA shirts - fits but with a lot of stretch
- TTYA sweaters - sleeves run short
- Dollmore Glamour Model - possibly, may be hit or miss; shoulder width and arm length are reported to be good
Pants
- Iplehouse EID Model
- Freedom Teller EID (Model) - on the baggy side, choose slim fit if possible
- Model-size jeans - may be big around the waist, can be remedied with a belt
- Iplehouse EID Model jeans - great fit
- Freedom Teller EID model pants - perfect fit
- rRabit 70cm pants/slacks
- M3 Studio, choose IPEID模特体 size (available for select items, may run big)
- Candy coloured shorts - Unknown reference, may be sold out. Yellow and 'red'/pink are made of stretchy material and, being measured smaller, suit Timeless body perfectly. Body sits in the shorts without any problems.
- Plaid pirate shorts and tied dye denim shorts (unknown reference) - No stretch, modifications needed. Look slightly baggy on the body though they do not slip off. Body sits in the shorts without any problems.
- Nine9style 70cm/SD17 baggy pants?
- Tata’s Paradise SSDF pants
Customized
- Aristocracy (Taobao)
- Stacy's Pink Ocean
- Sunny’s World select outfits - uncertain if this is offered, please contact about customization before ordering
Shoes
- Iplehouse EID
- Boots with heels can cause standing difficulties, likely due to the flatness of the feet
- Luts SSDF
- Alice’s Collections 70cm-75cm Shoes MS
- Angell Studio Charm size 70+ boots
- rRabit 70cm shoes and boots
- Ebay "wamami" SD17 synthetic leather boots
- Nine9style high-top sneakers with zipper on side
- Tata’s Paradise 70cm sneakers - fit perfectly
- Snake Eyes (Taobao) shoes - fit perfectly
Eyes
- 12mm
- 11mm Eyeco silicone. 13mm for larger iris
- 14mm - low dome/small iris recommended
- Goohwa has long and shallow eye sockets, making a 14mm overall size the best choice.
- 12mm urethane Mako eyes - show a little putty on the sides
Wigs
- 8-9", best fit
- 9-10"
- 7-8" Kemper wigs - fit Venitu tightly, not perfect
The bottom of some wig caps push up against the back of Venitu's neck, moving the wig and hairline too low on his forehead.
Bad Fit
- Ebay "wamami" SD17 patent leather dress shoes
- Iplehouse EID man training pants - too loose
- Nine9style ‘’boater’’ shoes
- Nine9style tight shirts
- Sadol SSDF pants
- TTYA pants
- Dollmore Glamour Model fitted trousers - will not go past the hips
Hybrids
5th Motif's dolls are notoriously difficult to hybrid due to the depth and position of the heads' neck hole, as well as the size of the neck. Most hybrids require modification to work successfully.
5th Motif heads on Other Bodies
- Dollstown 17/18yrs boy body (also cast by Dollshe): Head sits too low on the neck, may be remedied with a neck adapter or other mods to heighten the neck.
- Dollstown 18yrs reference (Flickr) - uses Twigling Eloy neck adapter
5th Motif Timeless Body with Other Heads
- Soom Idealian heads: The neck is too large and tall for the head. Can fit with modding, the head's neck hole should be opened to around 12 cm and the body's neck reduced all around to roughly a 12.3 cm circumference.
Links
Official
- 5th Motif @Dolshe (Page not found. 8/6/17)
- 5th Motif @Facebook
- 5th Motif @Flickr
- Interview with 5th Mofif artist, Mr. Cho
Customer Reviews
DoA links
- DoA database: 5th Motif Creations
