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Den of Angels is dedicated to the discussion of Asian ball-jointed dolls. The forum does not include all Asian-made dolls on principle; it also allows some non-Asian dolls if they are similar enough in terms of aesthetics and construction. (It is important to note that the phrase "Asian aesthetic" does not mean that the dolls must look ethnically Asian; it is used to describe the style and proportions of the dolls that were sculpted in Asia.)

A doll's suitability is determined based on several criteria points. Ultimately, the decision is solely up to the moderators.

Off-topic dolls may not be bought, sold, or traded on Den of Angels. They may not be the sole focus of any thread or post, though they may be included as comparisons in discussion with on-topic dolls, and they may be posted in the gallery in photographs that feature on-topic dolls but not alone in photos.

This is not a comprehensive list of the dolls that are off topic, but these are some dolls that have caused some confusion. They have been discussed and specifically disallowed by the moderators:

Non-resin dolls

All on-topic dolls must be made of resin. The following dolls are not on topic due to being made of plastic, porcelain, silicon or another material:

Non-Asian fashion dolls and figures

  • Barbie, Bratz, Moxie Girlz, etc.
  • Cygirls
  • Fashion Royalty
  • Gene
  • Horsman Urban Vita
  • Mattel Teen Trends
  • Tyler
  • action figures, etc.

1/6th scale Asian fashion dolls

  • Blythe
  • Hujoo Dolls: Hujoo, Cojoo, Berry, Minihue, Mujoo, Wings and Jake
  • Jenny & Licca
  • Obitsu 1/6th (11cm, 23cm, 25cm and 27cm)
  • Pullip, Dal, Taeyang, Namu, Byul, Isul, Hestia & J-dolls
  • Momoko & Momoko collaboration Unoa Lights (resin Unoa Lights are on topic)
  • Volks 1/6th (30cm, 27cm and 23cm Dollfies)
  • Figure kits and gachapon

Other non-resin dolls

  • Azone International vinyl dolls (these dolls have rooted hair and painted on features) - Although Obitsu bodies (60cm, 50cm, 48cm, 40cm) are Grandfathered, heads with rooted hair and painted features are not. Hybrids of off-topic and on-topic/Grandfathered parts are considered to be off-topic in their entirety.
  • Enchanted Doll (porcelain and assembled with spring tension system)
  • Hujoo ABS plastic dolls (resin dolls may be on topic)
  • InMotion Strawberina dolls (ABS plastic)
  • JerryBerry dolls (plastic body)
  • Jun Planning Ai
  • Mooqla
  • Silicone babies
  • Unjointed polymer figurines
  • Angel Egg by Marmite Sue (porcelain and assembled with spring tension system)

Resin fashion dolls

Although made of resin, these dolls have a westernized fashion aesthetic and often have bodies that lack detail, as the dolls are meant to be clothed. They're often marketed as fashion dolls, separate from other BJDs.

  • Dawn D'onofrio doll Raven
  • Doll in Paris
  • Dollmore Fashion Dolls (41cm/16in) Misia, Mika, Sara, Yvonne, Erico, Diana, Chris, Essex, Jaden & Jeremy
  • Dollmore Lukia Dolls
  • Ellowyne Wilde
  • Evangeline Ghastly
  • FICON
  • Kinetics
  • RnD Angels & Mensajero Dolls
  • Sybarites

Aesthetically off-topic

These dolls and doll makers are off-topic for aesthetic reasons.

Off-topic by 2012 Criteria Update

  • Bo Bergemann Sugar babies - Infant dolls with realistically sculpted baby fat
  • D-Storic IZI and future 'God size' dolls - Life-sized (1:1 scale) dolls
  • MocaPinoRu - Minimally sculpted body along fashion doll lines
  • Neo Angel Region Nappy Choo, Hallow Baby Choo, Sweet Baby Choo, Popo, Dalang - Infant dolls with realistically sculpted baby fat
  • Papermoon Chii - Life-sized (1:1 scale) dolls

Off-topic anthro dolls

  • 42dolls Nyangi (cat), Ppuggu (dog), Tori (rabbit), Chu (bear), Ggumi (pig); lack required joints
  • Aileen Doll / Hujoo Sunny (cat), Dorothy (cat), Bubi (cat), Wawa (dog), Frank (dog), Duboo (dog), Ashes (dragon), Seed (dragon), Rot (dragon), Genie (fox), Penny (fox); lack required joints
  • Anasthasia Workshop Follow The White Rabbit (rabbit); no nose/mouth and no anatomical detail on body
  • Blitzava/SheJackal Unicorn, Jackal, and Dinosaur
  • Charles Creature Cabinet Boneka Kayu, Issa (faun), Jemmy (faun), Kimbo (faun), Emiko (merbaby), Issa Moriko (Woodling baby), Imaginary Friend IF
  • CocoTribe Leonard (cat), Caroline (cat), Christine (cat), Zachery (fox), Dita (fox), Annie (mouse), Micah (mouse), Cesar (cow)
  • Dollti Heung-E (lion) and Dong-E (TinMan)
  • Dollzone Elephant, Dog, Gugu (plant), Lulu (plant)
  • Elfdoll Idex bunny, Seedlings (Sissy 1, 2 & 3), Baby Alice (piglet), Baby Ian (piglet), Edward (mouse)
  • Goodreau Bear (big and small), Polar bear (big and small), Bunny, Cat, Pig (big and small), Fox
  • Leeke Bono (beaver), Myu (cat), Corgi (dog), Erini (elephant), Beco (pig) and Picurin (bear)
  • Luts Minimee Zuzu Delf figurines
  • MisticUnicorn MushroomPeddler Wonderlings (various animals), Mini-Wonderlings (various animals); textured resin, more animal than anthro, Spark the Wyvern (dragon), Buglings (various insects); lacks required joints
  • tam★tam by ozaru-cozaru/PetLovers


Off-topic as anthros but may be bought or sold in the marketplace as accessories

  • Souldoll Gray (greyhound), Ice (unicorn)
  • Camelia Dynasty Wong (cat)
  • Petdoll Wonka (cat), Kitty (cat), Ant (cat), Duct (dog), Mori (dog), Kanu (tiger)
  • Domuya Nightmare
  • Secret Loft Designs Nahar (grandfathered)

Dolls Off-topic by Construction

  • Aileen Doll Elf Guardian Dite (no joints at ankles)
  • Angel Egg by Marmite Sue - Bodies when assembled by spring tension system
  • Angelsdoll Iseul Cat Avatar (not ball-jointed & aesthetically missing several criteria points)
  • Doll in Mind DIM Sweet New-Style Body (30cm) & All Heads Released For It (neck joint is a flat joint, not a ball-joint, and the head can only rotate)
  • Dollmore Dummy (not enough joints)
  • Dollzone 2009 Christmas babies (no wrist/ankle joints)
  • Dollzone 2012 Event dolls Fa, Mi, Re and Do (on the small body - not enough joints - if these heads are on the alternative 12cm body though, they are on-topic)
  • Dream High Studio Sylph (pin and hinge joints)
  • Elfdoll Flower Doll Baby Bud in bottle (no joints)
  • Enchanted Doll (resin dolls aren't strung & have painted eyes)
  • HZ Bloaties (Roro Line) (not enough joints)
  • Herrendoll Bambola (not enough joints)
  • Iplehouse N.YID Bianca v2 Cyborg (eyes cannot be changed)
  • LoongSoul Amalthea (non-jointed from the waist down)
  • Luts Tiny Delf Fairies Hansel and Gretel (no wrists or ankle joints)
  • My Dolling MJ Koo (not ball-jointed in hands and wrists)
  • NotDoll Lab/Aeyork Just Venus, Aka Bomb (not enough joints)
  • PeaksWoods Sun Fairy Shu Shu
  • Piposdoll Tin Man (interpreted as wearing a costume, limited customisation; on-topic dolls must be nude and intended by the company for customisation)
  • Popovy Sisters Bony, Blue Jay, Cherry, Cuckoo, Magpie (painted eyes)
  • Spirit Doll Herber (March Hare), (unjointed legs)
  • Spirit Doll Bloom (rabbit), (unjointed legs)
  • Simply Divine-Steinsculpture West Nile Charlotte
  • Volks Customize Figure kits (plastic parts, not strung)

Artist dolls

All dolls allowed on Den of Angels must adhere to the forum criteria. Artists who have created dolls in resin should post in Ask the Moderators] with information about their dolls before posting them on the forum.

Being listed as off-topic does not imply a negative judgment against the makers or sculpts. They simply do not fit the focus of our forum and have been ruled off-topic. Forums to discuss them: Lunar Ark, Junky Spot, Blythe Kingdom

For a list of banned dolls/bootlegs, please read banned dolls.

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